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THE FRIENDS OF ELVASTON CASTLE LODGE OFFICIAL COMPLAINT

We are campaigning to keep Elvaston Castle open to the public and have accused the council responsible for its upkeep of neglecting its duties. We have now lodged an official complaint. The castle and country park have been owned by Derbyshire County Council since the 1960s. The Friends of Elvaston Castle say the council has failed to care for the listed buildings and gardens in recent years and that problems are getting worse while the authority waits to complete a deal which would put the site in the hands of a developer.

We have submitted a formal complaint to the authority. A council spokeswoman said, "The reason we have chosen a private company to take over the lease is that the council simply does not have the resources needed to carry out major repair work. We are keeping the building safe and watertight, which is what we have agreed to do. But there are other areas where council money is needed, such as schools, and the council just cannot afford to keep putting large amounts into Elvaston Castle."

Highgate would be able to carry out the work needed but the Friends argue that this would be at a cost, with public access restricted once the lease is signed. Members have identified several areas of the building which they believe need immediate attention. These include the Golden Gates, which are believed to have once stood outside the Palace of Versailles before being brought to Derbyshire but which are now badly rusted. The grade II-listed Moorish Temple, which was build in 1860 for the Earl of Harrington, is also in a poor state, with windows boarded up and walls covered with graffiti.

A Friends spokesman said, "There are 17 listed buildings on the Elvaston estate and it is the council's duty to keep them wind and weatherproof, something which it has clearly failed to do over a long period. We wish to see the necessary repair and maintenance work begin immediately. It simply will not do for the council to carry on evading its legal responsibilities by claiming that it cannot afford repairs whilst continuing to rely on its disposal to the developers as a solution to the problem of financing them." (Source: Derby Evening Telegraph, May/08)

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Comments:

One of Elvaston's main problems is the geography. The DCC has little interest in anything much south of Belper. Neglect it and plead "no funds" is the usual cry. Geoff

I dont think I need to say what as already been said but why can't they turn this into a attraction where they can make some kind of profit? Take a look at Woollaton House or Nottingham Castle. All the years I have been to Elvaston Castle the only time I have been inside it is to sit in the cafe. I would love to walk around it one day. Please save this wonderful landmark so generations to come can enjoy it too. A Ottwell

I know someone who owns a Hippodrome - he may be interested in buying it with a view to repair it! James

Rachel, Derby City Council has nothing to do with Elvaston, it belongs to Derbyshire County Council. If it did belong to Derby City, I'm sure they could pop into the basement and return with another bundle of cash so recently fleeced from the tax payer. Ooops, I think they already spent that box turning cathedral green into cathedral hard-paving (honestly, grass and daffodils are so untidy looking, we really ought to copy Matlock and turn everything to tarmac and concrete). Bear

I have many fond memories of Elvaston Castle as I was born and bred in Alvaston. I spent many hours walking round there as a child and the photos posted on this website have brought tears to my eyes. I have just taken this from the listed building government website -
http://www.heritage.co.uk/apavilions/glstb.html#p and it reads:- "If a local authority consider that a listed building is not being properly preserved they may serve on the owner a 'repairs notice' under Section 115 of the Town and Country Planning Act 1971.

This notice must specify the works which the authority consider reasonably necessary for the proper preservation of the building and explain that if it is not complied with within 2 months the authority may make a compulsory purchase order and submit it to the Secretary of State for confirmation. If the owner deliberately neglects the building in order to redevelop the site, the local authority may not only acquire the building, but may do so at a price which excludes the value of the site for redevelopment.

If the building is unoccupied, the authority can serve a notice on the owner giving him 7 days' notice of their intention to carry out repairs which are urgently necessary to secure its preservation and recover the cost from the owner. These powers may also be exercised by the Secretary of State. Owners of listed buildings can, in some cases, get grants or loans to help them with repairs and maintenance." Since in this case it is the council themselves who are neglecting this building I am cutting out the middle man. I am drafting a letter to the Under Secretary of State to request that enforcement action is taken by his department to force the council to preserve the building.

I note the council say they are complying with their statutory obligations for a Listed Building. Quite bluntly they are not. Windows have been smashed but not replaced. The building is crumbling. The County Council are simply saying they want to wash their hands of Elvaston Castle and let the private sector do the work. They allowed the old working farm to go to wrack and ruin and the rest of the site will go the same way at this rate. They refused to let people take the harness, carts, gypsy caravans etc as they would prefer to let them rot. One man asked for the gypsy caravan his father donated back and they refused him.

How sad for him to know it was quite simply left to rot. How sad for the people of Derby to see their heritage disappear. If Derbyshire County Council stopped producing the Insight newspaper they put through all our doors they would have enough cash to replace the smashed windows and to paint the Golden Gates at least!!! We are not talking that much money to stop the building deteriorating. Oh dear - silly me - they are too busy spending time and money (our money as County Council Taxpayers) telling us all how they are such an "excellent council" to be bothered to maintain Elvaston Castle.

Last year they spent £3.2m on publicity - that would pay for lots of renovation works!!! They think if they tell us how "excellent" they are over and over again we will believe it. Well I hope that in next year's May 2009 elections the voters will remember that it is their money being used to promote the County Council's image and not be taken in by it. I would be interested to hear from the Friends of Elvaston Castle so I can copy the email I send to the government to you. I am also going to copy it to the MP for the area, Mark Todd. Please contact me at:
thefamilyblake@tiscali.co.uk. Juliette

If the council doesn't have the funds or the stomach to take care of our heritage they should turn it over to the National Trust for the benefit of our children and grandchildren to enjoy instead of just leaving it to the elements. Paul

Yet again the council sit on their hands and do absolutely nothing. They did nothing on the Hippodrome and look at what has happened to that wonderful building. Now Elvaston Castle with all its wonderful history and decoration is going the same way. Will Friargate Bridge be the next wonderful Derby landmark that goes. Derby City Council ought to be ashamed of themselves for doing nothing to keep Derby's heritage safe and secure for the next generations to enjoy.

The lot of them ought to be sacked. Will they ever learn from their mistakes, it doesn't look like it at the moment. The council ought to wake up and listen to what the people of Derby want with regards to saving its landmarks. I am Derby born and bred and come back home to visit family on a regular basis and everytime I return Derby changes yet again and it is not for the good. The Westfield is an absolute eyesore. The one way systems are a joke, you never know where you are going to end up. Rachel

Be sure to check that when the "digger" turns up to do the "repair" work it doesn't have "AB Demolition" emblazoned on it!! Rick

Get ready for the report that some one has set it on fire and it was so badly damaged nothing could be saved. Cynical, me? Tracey

John, what you are describing (HaHa Wall) is typical of current Derby. Nothing is maintained - things are left until they get into a terrible state then it is either classed as 'too late' or is becomes a massive project. Examples include Friargate Bridge (tree roots causing damage) damaged guttering and down-pipes on Elvaston and many others, toilets locked or demolished because simple maintenance doesn't get done, etc. etc. Derby Born

This neglect started years ago and is symptomatic of the way Councils get around listings. I made this point about Markeaton and Darley Parks. There was an attempt at Allestree Park Hall. De-listing by deliberate neglect. The conditions get so poor that along come the council and condemn the building as unsafe and down it comes Listed or not. I have watched the Ha Ha wall at Elvaston Castle slowly deteriorate over the last couple of years. The process was simple to fix.

When the first copping stone disappeared it should have been replaced straight away at relatively low cost but it was left so one after the other they all "disappeared" and now the brick work is deteriorating as it has no protection from the weather and rain is penatrating downwards. And of course the repairs will now be very expensive. Penny wise pound foolish but is there a hidden agenda or is it just wanton neglect. John

This place will end up like the Hippodrome. Steve


It has now been eight years since the state of Elvaston Castle provoked the county council to sell off what had, until 1981, been a jewel in the authority's crown. All serious maintenance work ceased with the change of control in May that year, and the situation has not changed since. Had the house and ancillary buildings been regularly maintained throughout that period, the present state of affairs would not, of course, have come about. Wilfully damaging a listed building is a criminal offence.

Damage caused by wilful neglect is surely no different in law ? but the council is hardly likely to take itself to court and, I fear, the sheer expense is likely to deter anyone else. The county council is not a fit body to be in charge of any historic building, as the lamentable cases of the Buxton Assembly Rooms, Burnaston House and St Helen's House well attest. And it took two attempts over four years to select the present developer, and even then it was an untried outfit chosen in preference to an experienced firm for a proven track record. Max

               
         

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